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2009年8月28日 上午2點49分32秒PROOF PROVIDED BY WIKIPEDIA FOR CHINA'S SOUTH-TI...

Most of the people native to and/or living in Arunachal Pradesh are of Tibeto-Burman origin. (wikipedia)

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how could indian asshole claim sovereighty in an area with people of tibeto-burmese origin?
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Historically, the area had a close relationship with Tibetan people and Tibetan culture, for example the sixth Dalai Lama Tsangyang Gyatso was born in Tawang.[6]

In 1913-1914 representatives of China, Tibet and Britain negotiated a treaty in India: the Simla Accord.[7] This treaty's objective was to define the borders between Inner and Outer Tibet as well as between Outer Tibet and British India. British administrator, Sir Henry McMahon, drew up the 550 miles (890 km) McMahon Line as the border between British India and Outer Tibet during the Simla Conference. The Tibetan and British representatives at the conference agreed to the line, which ceded Tawang and other Tibetan areas to the British Empire. The Chinese representative had no problems with the border between British India and Outer Tibet, however on the issue of the boder between Outer Tibet and Inner Tibet the talks broke down. Thus, the Chinese representative refused to accept the agreement and walked out.[citation needed] The Tibetan Government and British Government went ahead with the Simla Agreement and declared that the benefits of other articles of this treaty would not be bestowed on China as long as it stays out of the purview. The Chinese position since then has been that since China had sovereignty over Tibet, the line was invalid without Chinese agreement. Furthermore, by refusing to sign the Simla documents, the Chinese Government had escaped according any recognition to the validity of the McMahon Line.[8]


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12 mins agoRe: china-india border issues: shame on rogueness of india
oliver

24, Linyi, Shandong, China

Historically, the area had a close relationship with Tibetan people and Tibetan culture, for example the sixth Dalai Lama Tsangyang Gyatso was born in Tawang.[6]

In 1913-1914 representatives of China, Tibet and Britain negotiated a treaty in India: the Simla Accord.[7] This treaty's objective was to define the borders between Inner and Outer Tibet as well as between Outer Tibet and British India. British administrator, Sir Henry McMahon, drew up the 550 miles (890 km) McMahon Line as the border between British India and Outer Tibet during the Simla Conference. The Tibetan and British representatives at the conference agreed to the line, which ceded Tawang and other Tibetan areas to the British Empire. The Chinese representative had no problems with the border between British India and Outer Tibet, however on the issue of the boder between Outer Tibet and Inner Tibet the talks broke down. Thus, the Chinese representative refused to accept the agreement and walked out.[citation needed]

The Tibetan Government and British Government went ahead with the Simla Agreement and declared that the benefits of other articles of this treaty would not be bestowed on China as long as it stays out of the purview. The Chinese position since then has been that since China had sovereignty over Tibet, the line was invalid without Chinese agreement. Furthermore, by refusing to sign the Simla documents, the Chinese Government had escaped according any recognition to the validity of the McMahon Line.[8]

^ Lamb, Alastair, The McMahon line: a study in the relations between India, China and Tibet, 1904 to 1914, London, 1966, p529
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wikipedia: pay attention to the place "citation needed". indians and british's partial words---they can not find proofs!

at this problem, the wikipedia was partial too, just they speak english but china not!

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10 mins agoRe: china-india border issues: shame on rogueness of india
oliver

24, Linyi, Shandong, China

the key problem is that, the dalai government at that time try to seek "independence", for that perpose they sold out where the sixth dalai's birthplace to the british in trade for an endorsement!
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5 mins agoRe: china-india border issues: shame on rogueness of india
oliver

24, Linyi, Shandong, China

Various tribes in the state of Arunachal Pradesh have all evolved their own individual dialects that distinguishes them from the rest of the tribes. Some of the most widespread dialects are Nishi, Monpa, Adi, Dafla etc. Arunachal Pradesh has over 50 distinct languages and dialects, mostly of the Sino-Tibetan language family. However, Assamese is widely spoken. Presently English and Hindi have become widely used languages in Arunachal Pradesh. English is quietly replacing Nefamese (a pidgin of Assamese and various dialects in Arunachal) as the lingua franca of Arunachal Pradesh. Almost entire population of the state can understand and converse in Hindi.

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the local dalect are of tibet-chinese family---can't this prove anything?

we can see again english imperialism occurred here too. they figure by changing the language here they can claim more rights

why didn't the editor here present a survey chart for the language spoken?
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2 mins agoRe: china-india border issues: shame on rogueness of india
oliver

24, Linyi, Shandong, China

British map published in 1909 showing the Indo-Tibetan traditional border (eastern section on the top right)

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2009年7月19日 5:33Just want to say Hello...

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓

2009年7月22日 3:1Re: Just want to say Hello...

oliveryty
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kaibigan, you have 7 years older these days, marvelous...^_^

2009年7月22日 3:22Re: Re: Just want to say Hello...

fallingleaves21
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yes true pengyo...lol...ni hao...))

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2009年6月4日 17:25Re: hi

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2009年6月1日 12:31Re: hi

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
how are you. thank you for your visit to my page.

2009年4月16日 23:39HAVE GOOD NIGHT!

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2009年3月21日 6:27Hello Oliver, Pengyo

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
just dropping by ...what's up?

I notice that your topic is more of political issues? makes my mind refresh...I hope I can use all what I learned about world history for my further studies soon.... our discussion really interesting as if I'm in the classroom again.

Thank you very much my friend....have a happy weekend!

xie-xie...:)).

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2009年3月21日 6:53Re: Hello Oliver, Pengyo

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
Sorry for bothering you with that kind of topics:(

reports shows that foreigners have a lot of misundrstanding on China

As a citizen of China I feel obliged to give out my voice and show what a common Chinese think about these issue

China is not perfect now and we are not so ambitious to be a superpower, but unfortunately we are misdescribed to be this

On the issues of Sovereignty we can't retreat anymore... for 150 years china have lost so much, and we can't lose more...

Sometimes I am an annoying political animal... but in fact I just posted my stances on thses issues, I am not a politician:)))

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I am now working in a translation company majored in medical translation, i am learning a lot to behave well as I used to know little about medicology.

good day for you too :)))

2009年3月21日 7:13Re: Re: Hello Oliver, Pengyo

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
well...

I don't think all foreigners have the same thinking or misunderstood your country...you have to open your mind on that side too.

do you think you need to arrive on that point...explaining to me about as a citizen like that...

on the first place, can you not see...what I posted was history records...and that's irritates you and reacting like that too.

anyway...no need to say more...thanks and good day!

2009年2月13日 0:57FOR MY PENG YOU, NI HAO...

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓

2009年2月1日 7:29my pengyo is online...

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
ni hao...xia wu hao

what's up kaibigan?

xie-xie..:))

2009年2月1日 8:52Re: my pengyo is online...

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
I am now in the caybverdcafe now with some of muy colleagues

2009年2月1日 8:56Re: Re: my pengyo is online...

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
oh..i see..might be disturbing you..my pengyo.

thanks..:))

xie-xie

2009年2月1日 8:49Re: my pengyo is online...

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
on my way dack to beijing , my coach got stuck in the middle way,and we waited for 6 hours there.I got t bejing at 3:00 this morning. tiring

I was thrown to a service zone of an expressway to beijing and i got into downtown in a city bus. before taking the bus I waited in a cybercafe for more than 4 hours(about 3 to 7)

The coach I took had something wrong, and its engine gave off smokes, we thought it might explode. Anyway I am safe in Beijing now.

Nice day:-) and thank you for your caring:-)))

2009年2月1日 8:37Re: my pengyo is online...

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
I just returened to beijing my working place

2009年1月31日 0:28kaibigan/pengyo

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓

2009年1月28日 2:31kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓

2009年1月28日 12:34Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
thank you for this...^_^

2009年1月28日 12:46Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
what is that penyo?...:))

2009年1月29日 3:34Re: Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
for the above pic.. :-)

2009年1月29日 7:27Re: Re: Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
yeah..ok pengyo...:))

2009年1月28日 11:18Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
I am back now.

As I told you, I have been in my village for the festival, and there's no Internet accessment there.

It was kind of boring to be there, because there was few people whom we could talk with, for we have been out for too long.

there too little entertainment there.

yesterday afternoon as we had decided to leave the next day, we made a "shuttle diplomacy" to visit relatives. we dropped at their houses, talked a little and left for another's... :-)

life in the village are not very pleasant. many people left their home to work in factories, but the Financial Crisis reduced the bills for the factories. they get little from their farm.

My aunt had been working in her home and vegetable garden. But her pig she had raisen for half a year died of disease. she had to work out for an income to make up the lose.

2009年1月28日 11:46Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
welcome back to reality...peng yo

now back here in the city and

when is your work? Is it already regular working days?

your story about the village reminds me also in my hometown..too far away...I understand how hard life in the village...and sad to say they also affected by the recession..

you felt bored coz no internet...lol

thanks...:))

2009年1月28日 12:2Re: Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
I am almost an OTAKU because of the Internet ^_^ as I talk little with people with mouth.

I will be back to work in Feb. 1, that's the seventh day after the festival. I'll take a coach to Beijing before that day. I am enjoy this precious laisure in three days.

I can't get online if I am working in the big office for all employees in the company. I'll try to seek an job that I can work with a computer next time. :-)))

I will be online regularly. several times a week, in my private time.

what's the name of the NGO you are working for and what's its target...can you tell me if they are not confident(secret)? :-)

2009年1月28日 12:6Re: Re: Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
hey, pengyo..

I just feel strange..are you online now? if yes, why I cant see you, unlike before red light blinking...how about me, can you see me that Im online?

2009年1月28日 12:30Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
yeah I am online now,

I can not see your name blinking in red either.

yeah it's strange

are you online for all day as I noticed that you posted notes at any time I am online?(you posted a lot and everywhere)

^_^

2009年1月28日 12:42Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kaibigan/peng yo...what's up?

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
one online friend told me...there's something wrong with zorpia now...maybe the blinking has affected...maybe more of technical...

I can go online if I'm free...it can be anytime of the day..but if very busy, one month you can't see me here...most likely next month...many work line up...

ok..about your question regarding my work with non-govt-org...its a patient/membership organization...I'm one of the adviser for overall projects/planning for the org...

also I have part time job...doctors secretary only 3 times a week...the doctor - an eye specialist...two doctors I'm working with, both in two good hospitals here in the Philippines..

thanks..:))

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2009年1月18日 7:56Kaibigan

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
Nice to know that its no longer forbidden...one day I will visit Beijing.

I saw in National geo about the forbidden city...I was amazed..I'm really interested in Asian studies part of my course in college...now not only in books that I knew about China..and the info coming from you...

Thanks..peng yo...(kaibigan-friend)

2009年1月20日 4:34Re: Kaibigan

oliveryty
oliver已驗証的會員 24, 臨沂, 山東, 中國
kaidegan... :-)

2009年1月20日 4:38Re: Re: Kaibigan

fallingleaves21
Amara 高級會員  108, Makati City, 菲律賓
peng yo...ni hao...


its me ur kaibigan...:))
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